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Qoidalar mavzu qoʻshish, kuzatish, qidirish Mavjud va taklif etilajak qoidalar muhokamalari	Texnik savollar mavzu qoʻshish, kuzatish, qidirish Vikipediyaga oid texnik savollar muhokamalari	Takliflar mavzu qoʻshish, kuzatish, qidirish Qoidalarga oid boʻlmagan takliflar muhokamalari	Yangiliklar mavzu qoʻshish, kuzatish, qidirish Vikimedia loyihalariga oid yangiliklar va eʼlonlar	Yordam mavzu qoʻshish, kuzatish, qidirish Yangi foydalanuvchilar tomonidan berilgan savollar
Forum boʻlimlarining barchasini bir sahifada kuzatish

Forumning ushbu boʻlimi Vikipediyaga oid eng umumiy savollarni muhokama qilish uchun moʻljallangan.

„Tuzatib boʻlmas mashina tarjimasi“ bandiga mos keladigan eski maqolalarni oʻchirish yuzasidan soʻrovnoma

anchadan buyon avtomat tarjima andozasi qoʻyilgan koʻplab maqolalar hech qanday tahrirsiz shundogʻligicha „yotibdi“. ularni tahrir qiluvchi foydalanuvchilar esa deyarli yoʻq hozirda. jamoatchilik, ayniqsa, taniqli ziyolilar orasida mashina tarjimasi holatidagi baʼzi maqolalar misol tariqasida koʻrsatilishi kabi holatlar koʻzga tashlanib turganidan koʻpchilik xabardor. buning kabi holatlar oʻzbekcha Vikipediya obroʻyiga putur yetkazishini hisobga olib, „Tuzatib boʻlmas mashina tarjimasi“ bandiga yaqqol mos keladigan maqolalarni zudlik bilan oʻchirilishini taklif etaman. ovozga qoʻyilayotgan bu taklif maʼqullansa, bu turkumdan boshlash asnosida oʻchirish bilan bogʻliq jarayonlarda faol ishtirok etish niyatida ekanimni maʼlum qilaman. Alpasli (munozara)

shuningdek, mana bu muhokama jarayonida aksariyat foydalanuvchilar mashina tarjimasi asbobini yopish va yaratilgan axlat maqolalarni yoppasiga oʻchirish taklifini qoʻllaganini eslatib oʻtish oʻrinlidir. Alpasli (munozara)

Muhokama

Mashina tarjimasidan iborat maqolalar borasida turli vikilarda turlicha yoʻl tutiladi. Masalan, enwikida kamdan-kam holatlarda AT maqolalar darrov yoki muhokamasiz oʻchiriladi. Ruwikida oʻchirish ehtimoli kattaroq, ammo odatda muhokama qilishadi. Ammo bu ikki tilga mashina ancha tuzuk oʻgiradi. Oʻzbekchaga esa rasvo tarjima qiladi. Oʻzbekcha Vikipediya Telegram kanalida #smotriteshuningdek rukni ostida eʼlon qilingan ayrim postlar bunga yaqqol misol. Shuning uchun bir-ikki kichik tuzatish bilan oʻnglab boʻlmaydigan maqolalarni muhokamasiz oʻchirish tarafdoriman. Nataev ^munozara 18:06, 7-Yanvar 2024 (UTC)

Ushbu taklif qoida sifatida qabul qilingan taqdirda ham, oʻchirish huquqi bor foydalanuvchilarga istalgan maqolani muhokamasiz oʻchirib yuborish huquqi berilmasligi kerak. Yuqorida koʻrsatilgan turkumda avtomat tarjima boʻlmagan maqolalar ham mavjud va bu shaxsiy tajribada ham boʻlgan. AT sifatida koʻriladigan maqolalar asoslangan holda oʻchirilishi kerak. Shunchaki turkumda borligi uchun oʻchirish xato boʻladi, deb oʻylayman. Laziz Baxtiyorov (munozara) 08:14, 8-Yanvar 2024 (UTC)

yuqorida mashina tarjimasi yaqqol koʻzga tashlangan jarayonlrdagina oʻchirish haqida gap borgan. bu jarayonga bir kishi ishtirok etishi mumkin emas, albatta. fikr uchun tashakkur. Alpasli (munozara) 14:49, 8-Yanvar 2024 (UTC)

Yuqoridagi fikrlarga qoʻshilgan holda, tuzatib boʻlmas avtomat tarjima maqolalarni hech bir munozarasiz oʻchirib tashlash fikrini  qoʻllab-quvvatlayman. Biz uchun oliy mezon — sifat! Jamshid Nurqul (munozara) 11:37, 9-Yanvar 2024 (UTC)

Qo‘shimcha ravishda avtomat tarjima alomatlari bo‘lgan, lekin ahamiyati kuchli maqolalarni stub shaklida saqlab qolishlikni taklif qilaman. Huddi Kolbasa nomli maqolada qo‘llanilganidek. 16:46, 6-Iyul 2024 (UTC) PanPanChik ^#yozish 16:46, 6-Iyul 2024 (UTC)

Rozilar

1.  Roziman – Avtomat tarjima alomatlari bor va AT andozasi qoʻyilganidan soʻng qisqa vaqt ichida tahrir qilinmagan har qanday maqolani oʻchirilishi tarafdoriman.   Mirzoulugʻbek |@  15:50, 6-Iyul 2024 (UTC)
2.  Roziman – Tuzatib boʻlmas avtomat tarjima maqolani oʻchirib uni qaytadan toʻliq yaratmoqchi boʻlganlarga imkon berish kerak. Chunki qaytadan tahrirlab chiqqandan koʻra boshidan tarjima qilib maqola shakllantirmasdan osonroq. PanPanChik ^#yozish 16:43, 6-Iyul 2024 (UTC)
3.  Roziman – Yuqorida oʻchirish boʻyicha bildirligan fikrlarni qoʻllab quvvatlayman.AT andozasi qoʻyilgan lekin qisqa vaqtda yaxshi holatga keltirilmagan maqolalarni oʻchirish tarafdoriman Muxriddin Azimov (munozara) 18:25, 6-Iyul 2024 (UTC)
4.  Roziman – bu haqda yuqorida ham fikr bildirganman. Jamshid Nurqul (munozara) 21:10, 8-Iyul 2024 (UTC)

Reusing references: Can we look over your shoulder?

Apologies for writing in English.

The Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Deutschland is planning to make reusing references easier. For our research, we are looking for wiki contributors willing to show us how they are interacting with references.

• The format will be a 1-hour video call, where you would share your screen. More information here.
• Interviews can be conducted in English, German or Dutch.
• Compensation is available.
• Sessions will be held in January and February.
• Sign up here if you are interested.
• Please note that we probably won’t be able to have sessions with everyone who is interested. Our UX researcher will try to create a good balance of wiki contributors, e.g. in terms of wiki experience, tech experience, editing preferences, gender, disability and more. If you’re a fit, she will reach out to you to schedule an appointment.

We’re looking forward to seeing you, Thereza Mengs (WMDE)

Do you use Wikidata in Wikimedia sibling projects? Tell us about your experiences

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English.

Hello, the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team at Wikimedia Deutschland would like to hear about your experiences using Wikidata in the sibling projects. If you are interested in sharing your opinion and insights, please consider signing up for an interview with us in this Registration form.
Currently, we are only able to conduct interviews in English.

The front page of the form has more details about what the conversation will be like, including how we would compensate you for your time.

For more information, visit our project issue page where you can also share your experiences in written form, without an interview.
We look forward to speaking with you, Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Making MinT a default Machine Translation for your Wikipedia

Hello Uzbek Wikipedians!

Apologies as this message is not in your native language, Please help translate to your language.

The WMF Language team wants to make MinT the default machine translation support in Uzbek Wikipedia Content Translation. MinT in your Wikipedia uses the NLLB-200 machine translation model.

Our proposal to set MinT as the default machine translation service will expose contributors to open source service by default and allow them to switch to other services if they prefer those services. Contributors can decide to switch to another translation service that is not default if they prefer the service, which will be helpful in analyzing user preferences in the future.

The WMF Language team is requesting feedback from members of this community in this thread if making the MinT the default translation service is okay in this Wikipedia. If there are no objections to the above proposal. In that case, MinT will become the default machine translation in this Wikipedia by the 6th of February 2024.

Thank you for your feedback.

UOzurumba (WMF) (munozara) 05:13, 17-Yanvar 2024 (UTC) On behalf of the WMF Language team.

Feminism and Folklore 2024

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Dear Wiki Community,

You are humbly invited to organize the Feminism and Folklore 2024 writing competition from February 1, 2023, to March 31, 2023 on your local Wikipedia. This year, Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's issues, and gender-focused topics for the project, with a Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus and a folk culture theme on Wikipedia.

You can help Wikipedia's coverage of folklore from your area by writing or improving articles about things like folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer folklore figures, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales, and more. Users can help create new articles, expand or translate from a generated list of suggested articles.

Organisers are requested to work on the following action items to sign up their communities for the project:

1. Create a page for the contest on the local wiki.
2. Set up a campaign on CampWiz tool.
3. Create the local list and mention the timeline and local and international prizes.
4. Request local admins for site notice.
5. Link the local page and the CampWiz link on the meta project page.

This year, the Wiki Loves Folklore Tech Team has introduced two new tools to enhance support for the campaign. These tools include the Article List Generator by Topic and CampWiz. The Article List Generator by Topic enables users to identify articles on the English Wikipedia that are not present in their native language Wikipedia. Users can customize their selection criteria, and the tool will present a table showcasing the missing articles along with suggested titles. Additionally, users have the option to download the list in both CSV and wikitable formats. Notably, the CampWiz tool will be employed for the project for the first time, empowering users to effectively host the project with a jury. Both tools are now available for use in the campaign. Click here to access these tools

Learn more about the contest and prizes on our project page. Feel free to contact us on our meta talk page or by email us if you need any assistance.

We look forward to your immense coordination.

Thank you and Best wishes,

Feminism and Folklore 2024 International Team

Stay connected  

--MediaWiki message delivery (munozara) 07:26, 18-Yanvar 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Folklore is back!

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Dear Wiki Community, You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2024 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 31st of March.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.

Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.

Kind regards,

Wiki loves Folklore International Team

-- MediaWiki message delivery (munozara) 07:26, 18-Yanvar 2024 (UTC)

A new feature for previewing references on your wiki

Apologies for writing in English. If you can translate this message, that would be much appreciated.

Hi. As announced some weeks ago ^{[1] [2]}, Wikimedia Deutschland’s Technical Wishes team introduced Reference Previews to many wikis, including this one. This feature shows popups for references in the article text.

While this new feature is already usable on your wiki, most people here are not seeing it yet because your wiki has set a gadget as the default for previewing references. We suggest removing the default flag from this gadget on your wiki. That will mean:

• The new default for reference popups on your wiki will be Reference Previews.
• However, if you want to keep using the gadget, you can still enable it in your personal settings.

The benefit of having Reference Previews as the default is that the user experience will be consistent across wikis and with the Page Previews feature, and that the software will be easier to maintain overall.

If your wiki wants to make this change, you can remove the default flag yourself or ask the Technical Wishes team to remove it for you, ideally by February 12. – Kind regards, Johanna Strodt (WMDE), 09:40, 23-Yanvar 2024 (UTC)

Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2024: We are back!

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Hello, dear Wikipedians!

Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the MFA of Ukraine and Ukrainian Institute, has launched the forth edition of writing challenge "Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 1st until 31st March 2024. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that are now part of world heritage. We accept contribution in every language! The most active contesters will receive prizes.

We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia in your language! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! ValentynNefedov (WMUA) (talk)

The full draft of the Wikimedia Movement Charter will soon be shared

Hi there,

The Movement Charter Drafting Committee is happy to announce that the full draft of the Movement Charter will be published on April 2nd, 2024. This will kick off the community engagement period from April 2nd to April 22nd.

The Movement Charter is a proposed document to define roles and responsibilities for all the members and entities of the Wikimedia Movement, including to lay out a new Global Council for movement governance.

Everyone in the Wikimedia Movement is invited to share opinions on the full version of the Charter draft – this is the last chance to offer feedback before the Charter draft is updated for the ratification vote in June 2024.

How to share your feedback?

• share your message or question on the Movement Charter Talk page;
• attend a community drop-in session on April 4th at 15.00-17.00 UTC (details forthcoming).

Read the Committee's latest updates for more information.

On behalf of the MCDC, --AAkhmedova (WMF) (munozara) 10:00, 25-Mart 2024 (UTC)

Jahon turizm evolyutsiyasi

Jahon turizm evolyutsiyasi haqida Rahmatilayev Behruz (munozara) 20:00, 24-May 2024 (UTC)

Qozonxon and Kazan (Chigʻatoy)

Are they same person? Kaiyr (munozara) 12:17, 30-May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, they are. I've merged the two entries. Nataev ^munozara 16:10, 30-May 2024 (UTC)

Morfologiya

Hi. Are these topics the same? Morfologiya and Morfologiya (tilshunoslik)? Bikar (munozara) 15:30, 8-Iyul 2024 (UTC)

Yes, they are. I've merged the two entries. Laziz Baxtiyorov (munozara) 17:49, 17-Iyul 2024 (UTC)

Thx! Bikar (munozara) 17:51, 17-Iyul 2024 (UTC)

Olimpiada oʻyinlaridagi sport turlariga oid maqolalar nomi haqida

Assalomu alaykum hurmatli administratorlar @Abdulla:, @Alpasli:, @Artemev Nikolay:, @Jamshid Nurkulov:, @Kagansky:, @Laziz Baxtiyorov:, @Malikxan:, @Mirzoulugʻbek:, @Muxriddin Azimov:, @Nataev:, @Nataeva:, @Panpanchik: hamda faol foydalanuvchilar @Ahror Akramovich:, @AnvarxonM:, @Hasan Xamidovich:, @Kamol Azzam:, @Khasan azim1:, @Mirishkorlik:, @Miss Kamola:, @Mrshaxas:, @Muzaffar Murodovich:, @Sitora Oblakulova:, @Umarxon III:, @ShohjahonSobirov: hozirda yozgi olimpiada oʻyinlari boʻyicha oʻzbekcha Vikipediyada yaxshi maqolalar yaratilmoqda, ammo ularning nomlanishi oʻzbek tilini biluvchilarga gʻalati eshitilishi mumkin, jumladan menga ham ayrimlarining nomlanishi gʻalati eshitildi, qandaydir mos tushmagandek tuyilmoqda. Shu sababdan ularning nomlanishi qayta koʻrib chiqish kerak deb oʻylayman. Masalan, Badminton 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida, Dzyudo 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida, Suzish 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida, Boks 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida – ayollar 50 kg, Akademik eshkak eshish 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida – ayollar bir kishilik kayik, Stol tennisi 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida – ayollar oʻrtasida yakkalik va boshqa shu kabilarni 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida suzish (yoki suzish sporti), 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida badminton, 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida dzyudo, 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida boks – ayollar bahsi 50 kg, 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida akademik eshkak eshish – ayollar yakkalik bahsi (yoki ayollar oʻrtasidagi yakkalik bahs), 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida stol tennisi – ayollar yakkalik bahsi, 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida kamondan otish – aralash jamoa bahsi shaklida yozilsa, balki hamma uchun ancha tushunarli boʻlardi. Humoyun Qodirov (munozara) 07:38, 31-iyul 2024 (UTC)

Oʻrinli taklif uchun tashakkur. Taklifni toʻliq  qoʻllab-quvvatlayman. Sport turlari nomlarini maqola boshida emas, oxirida yozganimiz maʼqul. Sintaksis jihatidan ham gap toʻliqroq/tushunarliroq boʻladi shunda. Hasan Xamidovich (munozara) 07:44, 31-iyul 2024 (UTC)

Haqiqatda boshqa tillarni kuzatmay yaratibman, trwiki va kkwikida ham xuddi siz aytgandek nomlangan ekan. Keyingi yaratilajak maqolalarimda shunga amal qilaman hamda yaratilganlarini tahrirlayman. Ushbu taklifni  qoʻllayman. Mirishkorlik (munozara) 08:17, 31-iyul 2024 (UTC)

Yaxshi fikr. Khasan azim1 (munozara) 15:45, 31-iyul 2024 (UTC)

Oʻrinli taklif. Shuningdek, maqola nomini 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida akademik eshkak eshish (ayollar yakkalik bahsi) shaklida nomlasak ham yaxshi, fikrimcha.

Berilgan taklifni  Qoʻllayman Laziz Baxtiyorov (munozara) 19:45, 31-iyul 2024 (UTC)

Ushbu taklifni  qoʻllab-quvvatlayman.Ahror Akramovich (munozara) 21:35, 31-iyul 2024 (UTC)

 Qoʻllab-quvatlayman, yagona qolipdagi nomlanish boʻlishi xaosning oldini oladi. Alpasli (munozara) 06:29, 1-avgust 2024 (UTC)

 Qoʻllayman. Muzaffar Murodovich (munozara) 05:12, 2-avgust 2024 (UTC)

Yaxshi taklif  Qoʻllayman-quvatlayman. Ibrohimjon 17:42, 4-avgust 2024 (UTC)

Eshitilishi ham yaxshi.  Roziman MrShaxas ^#Munozaracha 08:32, 6-avgust 2024 (UTC)

 Qoʻllayman. ANJANIY^#gurung 15:02, 13-avgust 2024 (UTC)

 Qarshiman Maqola nomining boshida sport nomini yozilishi avvaliga menga ham qandaydir xato koʻringan edi. Lekin keyin bildimki aynan shunday nomlanish maqolani oson topishga koʻmaklashadi. 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida… deya qidirganda yuzlab maqolalar chiqib keladi. Lekin sport nomini boshida yozish orqali tez va oson topib olsa boʻladi. Qoʻshimcha ravishda siz aytgan holatdagi maqola ham yaratilib aynan sport nomi boshida yozilganiga yoʻnaltirish berish mumkin.

Masalan: 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida gandbol --> Gandbol 2024-yilgi Yozgi Olimpiada oʻyinlarida PanPanChik ^#yozish 06:03, 17-avgust 2024 (UTC)

 Qarshiman Panpanchikning yuqorida keltirilgan fikrlariga toʻliq qoʻshilaman. Sitora Oblakulova (munozara) 17:29, 24-avgust 2024 (UTC)

Coming soon: A new sub-referencing feature – try it!

Hello. For many years, community members have requested an easy way to re-use references with different details. Now, a MediaWiki solution is coming: The new sub-referencing feature will work for wikitext and Visual Editor and will enhance the existing reference system. You can continue to use different ways of referencing, but you will probably encounter sub-references in articles written by other users. More information on the project page.

We want your feedback to make sure this feature works well for you:

• Please try the current state of development on beta wiki and let us know what you think.
• Sign up here to get updates and/or invites to participate in user research activities.

Wikimedia Deutschland’s Technical Wishes team is planning to bring this feature to Wikimedia wikis later this year. We will reach out to creators/maintainers of tools and templates related to references beforehand.

Please help us spread the message. --Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

'Wikidata item' link is moving. Find out where...

Apologies for cross-posting in English. Please consider translating this message.

Phabricatorda soʻrov
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Hello everyone, a small change will soon be coming to the user-interface of your Wikimedia project. The Wikidata item sitelink currently found under the General section of the Tools sidebar menu will move into the In Other Projects section.

We would like the Wiki communities feedback so please let us know or ask questions on the Discussion page before we enable the change which can take place October 4 2024, circa 15:00 UTC+2. More information can be found on the project page.

We welcome your feedback and questions.
MediaWiki message delivery (munozara) 18:57, 2024-yil 27-sentyabr (UTC)

Explore PHLWin: Your Ultimate Online Gaming Destination

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In conclusion, PHLWin is a top-tier online gaming platform that offers variety, flexibility, and an exceptional player experience. With a broad selection of games, the ability to combine different genres freely, and a commitment to continuous growth, PHLWin ensures that every gaming session is filled with excitement and fresh challenges. Whether you’re a casual player or someone seeking a more immersive experience, PHLWin delivers a fun, dynamic, and ever-evolving environment for all types of players. Zwekaiys (munozara) 14:10, 2024-yil 12-oktyabr (UTC)

'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally.

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the Wikidata item sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the General section into the In Other Projects section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. Please let us know if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -Danny Benjafield (WMDE) 11:29, 2024-yil 22-oktyabr (UTC)